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but if rape is so evil how can some People have a fetish for it?

There really is no "good" or "evil" because the concepts are man-made. It's easy to see this.

However, I do think that humans can still come about to agreements of what good and evil acts are, and thus through agreement we can make good and evil a reality. Rape is bad. Why is it bad? Because the person being raped is effected in a negative way (the vast majority of the time). It does not matter if the person doing the raping is enjoying it.

Just as with a serial killer. The person doing the killing might be enjoying it, and might be thinking that it's perfectly good, but the people being effected are being effected in a negative manner. Therefore, we can agree that rape and serial killings are "evil".

Pathetic 'article'.
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As an article, it's not really good, but it does ask a good question, thus creating the potential for a good debate.

i think someone is totally confused, rape is evil because its phsyical abuse and against someones will, simple as that, you dont have to believe in anything to realize that, and dont confuse fetish with reality, people like to role play, its not the same as real rape, if you are into being raped for real, then you probably have suicidal tendencies and whatever you want to do to yourself go ahead but dont be forcing it on other people

Pretty sure the author wasn't out to make an outstanding fucking article. You don't have to have an A+ article to create debate and conversation.

Evil is when the cause of suffering is due to malicious intent. For example, genocide is evil because it is intended. Natural disasters, while causing suffering, are not evil because they are merely part and parcel of nature.

okay, rape is not 'good' or 'evil', but it is a matter of perspective.

Without good, evil would cease to exist. Without evil, good would cease to exist. It's a never ending cycle. What came first, the chicken or the egg?

The chicken came first.

The egg came first.

I decided rape was bad and everyone just sorta followed my lead...

good point, but you should elaborate a bit.

ok, there are other evils that don't involve directing harming someone. there's people that simply enjoy when others are suffering, and want to see that happen, so sometimes the mind itself can be evil. it's not just the acts. a person can go their entire life not even hurting a fly, and everyone might think they're a sweetheart, but they're truly evil based on thoughts.

Evil is a matter of perspective for each person. one thing maybe good to someone well evil to someone else. there should be a standard of good and evil but there isnt because of the difference of opinion.
To me anything evil is forcing or taking away someones choice or free will.
rape- the choice of sex
murder- the choice of life
even forcing someone into one choice i find to be evil too.

Every law that we have was originated by a religious law written long long ago when churches ruled, and any other ones (bylaws) are really just branches from those major laws, which were brought about over many years.
That's what I think, anyways, I could be wrong.
Imo, the laws of good and evil either came from God Himself or just people trying something and then realizing it does more harm then good.
I believe anything that does harm to self or others is most likely 'evil', and if there is no harm done, then it is not evil, therefore it must be good.

But remember just because something is illegal doesn't make it bad, and just because something is legal doesn't mean it's good.

Evil is knowing better but doing worse, wise qoute think it over.

@LeviMcray...most insightful thing I've seen on Nexopia.

Good and evil are man made ideas. That being said, since most people accept good and evil, they are both in balance in this world. For every good deed there is and evil one to counter it, and for every evil deed, there is a good one to counter it. Rape could be considered evil, but there could be a silver lining to it too, once one moves past a trauma like that it could make them a stronger, smarter person. Who is to say what is good and evil? Suposing that rape is an act of evil; what if one rapes because they don't know any better, they have a mental illness or disorder, or have been taught to rape, or came from an abusive family? Does that make them an evil person becuase they don't know the error of their ways? Just because someone helps an old lady across the street, does that make him a good person? How do people observing that situation know that he isn't just helping that woman accross the street because he wants to look good, or because he is hoping to reap some sort of benefit from the situation?

@Sublimation
Nope, it was the chicken. And egg has to have come from somewhere, but the chicken has evolved.

Are you fucking reetarded? "rape as a mattter of perspective?" so your saying if i took you to a dark alley and bent you over, you'd sit there and think, "well atleast HE had a good time..."?

@Corpulent. I beg to differ. From a Darwinian perspective, it must be the egg that came first. Species do not evolve ontogenetically (i.e., during their lifetime), they evolve phylogenetically. The transitional form of the chicken could not have spontaneously transformed into the modern-day chicken during its lifetime. It must have occurred gradually, with each new genetic piece of information being manifested in the next generation of chicken. It sounds like you are proposing a Lamarckian interpretation of this problem, which is no longer accepted in current evolutionary thought.

@*SEDUCTION, your point is why I suggest "intent" as a hallmark of evil, which is consistent with LeviMcray's allusion to Zimbardo's quote.

I have been dealt a crushing blow. I though thought you assumed an egg just came from nowhere magically, but I see how it was the egg first.

@Corpulent..lol no worries, it is of course all still speculation. There is just a stronger argument for the egg.