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 Discuss the Edmonton Oilers. 
Tuesday August 2, 2011, 5:30 am Top
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 Noice. Thanks Chris haha. Little late tonight, but I'll be posting plenty in this baby. 
Tuesday August 2, 2011, 5:32 am Top
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Who's stoked?

I'm FUCKING stoked. 
Tuesday August 2, 2011, 6:59 am Top
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 Very, very stoked. If he turns out to be an elite center, he'll be a missing piece we've needed since FOREVER ago. And the fact we're waiting on some d-men that could turn out to make top 2 pairing makes it even sweeter. I love the fact that we're drafting for a scoring team - not trying to build an iron wall behind us.

If all 3 live up to their potential, Eberle - RNH - Hall will be one of the [if not THE strongest] lines in the NHL. Even if they fall a bit short, they'll be one of the best scoring lines. Eberle is scoring erring on the side of playmaker, Hall is scoring erring on the side of sniper, and RNH is a straight up playmaker with some scoring upside. How much more exciting a line could you ask for?

I literally couldn't ask for a better rebuild than we're comitted to. 
Tuesday August 2, 2011, 7:04 am Top
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 Word out of Oilers staff is that RNH has a very underrated shot. Not the hardest, but ACCURATE.

We could potentially have three players who know how to shoot, know how to pass, and know when to do both.

I'm very excited for those three.

Now, our D is terrible. Our goaltending, unless Dubey pans out, is terrible. Our other goalie prospects are several years away. Most of our D are several years away as well, especially the top upside guys like Marincin and Klefbom.

If (when) we draft fairly high again next year, I want Ryan Murray or Griffin Reinhart. They'd round out our core beautifully.

With that said, we still have to stick to drafting BPA, so it really depends on where we draft.

I just don't see a good way to get that top pairing D-man we need so desperately. We can't trade away too many players that actually have value and we can't overpay a free agent at this point. 
Tuesday August 2, 2011, 7:11 am Top
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 Truth. We need that ceiling in our cap for our young guys now. I'm really banking on Smid continuing to grow (I love Laddy. I don't care what anyone says, he's a beauty. He's saved more goals behind our tenders than I can count, he's got all the heart he can use, and he's responsible. He's what we need.), Petry stepping up, and Peckham continuing to play a mean game. Strudwick has started to fade into the woodwork [thank god], Whitney will remain solid, I'm hoping for Teubert to play a well-rounded defensive game with some mean streak, Sutton will make us harder to play against, Klefbom (I'm hoping, PRAYING...) will turn out to be a dynamic 2-way defenseman, and Marty Marincin has been on-and-off described as one of the best defensemen in the WHL. Dan Tencer says many of his WHL sources speak of him as 'a cut above all other WHL defenseman', and 'easily the best dman in the WHL'. The kid's taken everything good in his game, and worked to nullify the weakspots that weakened his value when he was drafted. I'm stoked on him.

I don't know. We have a shitty blueline... but I don't think we will for long. We've got some mean upside coming in for every position. 

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Tuesday August 2, 2011, 7:40 am Top
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 If Smid is our hope, we don't have much for the next couple years :rofl:

I was hoping they'd be able to get a top 2 guy via FA on a 2 year deal. I doubt any wanted anything to do with that though. 
Tuesday August 2, 2011, 2:55 pm Top
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 hahaha sorry, the stupid italics command was blocking out my post. 
Tuesday August 2, 2011, 9:58 pm Top
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 We have a lot of promising prospects for sure, but Alex Plante was a promising prospect. Taylor Chorney was a promising prospect. Hell, Petry is JUST coming into his own and he is already 23.

If Klefbom and Marincin take that long, they won't reach their potential for at least 5 years.

It isn't good enough. Not yet.

Now, I have no idea if Ryan Murray will be NHL ready as fast as, say, Doughty, but I like the kid :P 
Tuesday August 2, 2011, 11:53 pm Top
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 No, I do agree we need a prominent d-man NOW, which we will hopefully trade for or sign. Thankfully we got Barker and Sutton, so our depth is better. No more farm-for-lifers on our bench, which is good.

I was looking at our cap info just for fun, and it breaks my heart seeing Horcoff at 5.5 for 4 more fucking years. I thought his contract was 2-3 years from ending for some reason, and MAN that hurts to look at. Same with Khabi's 3.75, I REALLY wish his contract was up sooner for the ability to either cut his pay or move him.

It's also really made me realize we don't have anyone locked up very good anymore. Hall, Ebs and MPS will probably be locked up a decent few years, but Horcoff's the only guy signed for more than 3 years. I guess it comes with the territory of a rebuild, but I can't wait for that first lock-up deal to come. 
Thursday August 4, 2011, 12:20 am Top
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 Horcoff and Gilbert's contract hurt, but they are manageable. Assuming nothing groundbreaking changes in the new CBA, Horcoff's contract is no longer immovable. The cap hit isn't even terrible for what he brings when guys like Brooks Laich are getting $4.5 mill contracts.

With that said, he could be an option going forward for a budget team because the last two years of his deal have lower salaries than cap hits.

Khabi's contract is done in 2 years, so its a non-factor because that is when Hall, Ebs and MPS need to be re-upped.

The only contract worry I know of this year is Hemsky. 
Thursday August 4, 2011, 12:30 am Top
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 Truth. That fucker better not ask for much of a raise... I'd like him to, you know, PLAY A FUCKING SEASON before we jack up his contract. 
Thursday August 4, 2011, 12:36 am Top
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 He'd get 6 on the market, easy.

I'm hoping we get him resigned for around 5. Maybe a front loaded longer term (6 year) contract to bring the cap hit down even more if we can. 
Thursday August 4, 2011, 12:58 am Top
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 i say we offer hemsky a long long term worth around 5 max 5.5. if he declines and chooses another route, no offense to him, but big whoop, we have a ton of solid young prospects ready to step up 
Thursday August 4, 2011, 1:09 am Top
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 If Hemsky goes, I'd like to see him involved in a trade for a top 2 defender or a strong defensively aware 2C

Move Gagner to right wing and let the competition between him and Omark begin 
Thursday August 4, 2011, 1:11 am Top
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 i really want gagner to pan out as the #2 center. this year is his yr. he'll play with at least one or two solid forwards. i think he can get close to the 60 point plateau and i think he will get close this year 
Thursday August 4, 2011, 1:14 am Top
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 I don't like Gagner as 2C long term. It isn't his point production that concerns me. He's slow for his size, weak on the puck and has too many defensive deficiencies. We aren't building a top line suited for power vs. power matchups, so we need a defensively responsible 2C in the Patrice Bergeron, Ryan Kesler, Pavel Datsyuk mold. I emphasize MOLD because we probably won't get any of those players ever haha. 
Thursday August 4, 2011, 1:37 am Top
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 If gags learns how to take a faceoff, I'm all for him being 2C. That is, if we can get some beef into the wings. MPS is a good start. 
Thursday August 4, 2011, 1:39 am Top
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Originally posted by: WeepForTheSin
I don't like Gagner as 2C long term. It isn't his point production that concerns me. He's slow for his size, weak on the puck and has too many defensive deficiencies. We aren't building a top line suited for power vs. power matchups, so we need a defensively responsible 2C in the Patrice Bergeron, Ryan Kesler, Pavel Datsyuk mold. I emphasize MOLD because we probably won't get any of those players ever haha.


kids only 22... and produces at a .6 ppg rate, which isn't bad, he does have a few deficincies to work on, but he does have that capability to be a great #2 C for this team.

i say wait until after this season before we judge. 
Thursday August 4, 2011, 2:30 am Top
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 oh, for sure, I'm in no hurry to trade him, i just have doubts that he is the kind of guy i would ideally like at the 2C position on a cup contending team.

He's always made a better RWer anyway.

Gagner is a good "problem" to have, gives lots of options. Trade him, trade a RWer, leave him at C if he begins to grow. 
Thursday August 4, 2011, 2:43 am Top
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 Since you did this can we have a jets thread? :) 
Thursday August 4, 2011, 5:57 am Top
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 Fuck yea we can have a Jets thread. Make it. 
Thursday August 4, 2011, 5:58 am Top
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 Why would their be a New York Jets thread in a hockey forum? 
Thursday August 4, 2011, 6:50 am Top
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 PLEASE be a troll... hahahahaha. 
Thursday August 4, 2011, 6:52 am Top
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Originally posted by: LarsNoullett
I can see where you're coming from. I'm really high on Larson, usually I would agree that defeneman take much longer than forwards to develope. But he's such a smart defeneman from the play I've seen, I think he'll be much faster.

Oh I agree. The guy is a stud, but RNH is the can't miss talent.

I have no doubts that in 5 years, nobody will think we made the wrong choice even though Larsson will be great.

Also, Larsson went to my second favourite team, so I'm not too too upset :P 
Saturday August 6, 2011, 8:28 pm Top
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