Corbinus - 19, Male, Edmonton
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The Walking Existential Crisis.
Alrighty, then.

Here's my basic argument:

In 10 or 200 or 5,000 years, no one is going to remember your name. No one is going to know who you were, what you did, or how you lived. And if someone is forgotten, and no physical evidence of them remains, then in a conscious reality, they’ve never really existed.

It seems like humanity’s only real goal in this universe is to be able to accommodate every living being in comfort and peace (via our ever-expanding knowledge). Basically, eradicate all of the problems we've created. That’s great and all, but let’s consider for a moment that we succeed. We create a perfect society. Harmony with nature, happiness for all, no poverty or hunger, etc etc. A utopia, if you will.

…Then what?

Is our existence then rendered meaningless for lack of an objective?

And if, on the other hand, the goal is an unreachable one, then aren't our efforts rendered superfluous?

We advance our thought process and intelligence and reason as a species, but eventually, we’re all going to die out. That’s just the cycle of the universe. Life exists only to sustain itself, which seems like a pretty shitty reason to be. I exist to exist? If your goal is to exist, you’ve kind of reached it already.

Not to mention the fact that every single human being and every action is fueled by selfishness. For example, a kleptomaniac steals because it makes him feel good. A man who helps others, like a doctor or volunteer, also does it because it makes him feel good. The kleptomaniac, however, is frowned upon because society has deemed his behavior unacceptable, however natural it may be. Both men are simply acting on selfish impulses to attain the common goal of self-contentment.

By this token, the only drive or purpose in life seems to be to make oneself feel good; to grab as much happiness out of this world as we can before we die. I would try say procreation is a motivator, too, but with the Earth's population issues, even that's no longer necessary.

So for those of us who aren’t religious, who don’t have that metaphysical crutch, for those who don’t believe there are forces in the world or higher beings in the sky or a master plan or a place to go after death…

What’s the point?
 
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twistedreality - 19, Male, Maine
10:22pm | Aug 16, '10
There is no point other than to live your life to the fullest and then eventually die. The only way to be remembered is to go down in history , and even then you might only end up as a footnote.
Aidan.is.cool
01:32am | Aug 17, '10
Aidan.is.cool
exactly.
;RainingBlood - 17, Female, Victoria
10:58pm | Aug 16, '10
Well said. I enjoyed reading this.
R-anCid-PuNk
04:18am | Aug 17, '10
R-anCid-PuNk
well put.
xhammx
04:18am | Aug 17, '10
xhammx
hm. well, lifes a bitch and then you die.

and if you're feeling a little, purpose-less, than you should stop wasting space, hmm?
or atleast do some crazy genocide shit for the old and sick. definetly wasting space.
don't forget my house!

& no i dont know you, never heard of you. saw your blog, caught my attention. didnt have anything worth while to write about myself.. but ive heard this all 1000 times. good points. they've already been made.
TERRAUNITED - 22, Male, Calgary
04:05pm | Aug 17, '10
People are remembered for their actions if it affects enough people.

Think of history some people are remembered but the most of them are not. Be the great people of history if you wish to be remembered.

NaturalDubs - 19, Male, Calgary
12:27am | Aug 18, '10
have you realized how stupid that was yet?
Corbinus - 19, Male, Edmonton
07:04am | Aug 18, '10
funny thing is I didn't even write this, it was sent to me via honesty box on facebook, thought I'd share it. I don't write long winded opinions for fun.
NaturalDubs - 19, Male, Calgary
12:21pm | Aug 18, '10
you should respond calling him or her a dumbass for writing such nonsense
Corbinus - 19, Male, Edmonton
07:07pm | Aug 18, '10
How is looking for the point of life nonsense? Grow a brain.
half.platypus - 18, Male, Calgary
12:41am | Aug 18, '10
I think existentionalism is the last great frontier for philosiphers. Humanitie's best expanation is that we are not as special as we assume ourselves to be. We are just another part of the earth, another being in the universe. A combination of carbon and nitrates and what-have-you. I think existentionalism is rooted in the belief that we are something more important than that, which is false.

We are just an animal. The goal of the animal is to live as long as possible in order to reproduce. I thin kour actions are a consequence of that animal urge. An action by a volunteer or doctor is a socially minded action. they are more like group-animals. An action by a kleptomaniac is an individually minded action, the result of being a more seclusive animal.

Thats the best idea Ive ever thought up for that...like all things, it could be wrong.

Corbinus - 19, Male, Edmonton
08:46am | Aug 18, '10
Ehh, if humans are all one animal species (which we obviously are) and nothing more, no more inteligent or sophisticated then we would only act in group-like behaviours or single-minded behaviours. Either all of us would want families, the same types of jobs and basically be content with just living, eating and fucking to be blunt. We aren't, some are, but we as a species are varied beyond that of any other single species.
half.platypus - 18, Male, Calgary
09:41pm | Aug 18, '10
Thats where i think nature vs. nurture comes into play. Some of us are taught to believe that there are certain ways to best suit our own needs.

Everything we do is a means of living, eating and fucking. Constantly trying to improve our social standing is a means of improving our sway with the pack, and with people of the opposite sex.
Mr.Kewl - 21, Male, Alberta
06:14am | Aug 18, '10
well first off, i'd like to point out that not everyone does everything for selfish reasons... most people probably do... and most people are also assholes. but there is such a thing as unconditional love, empathy, compassion, selflessness, etc. though they are becoming all the more rare with the passage of time, and the "development" of our civilization. yet there are people out there who really do things for others without expecting anything in return (and i know you said they do it for the pleasure that they get from doing a good thing) but i know not everyone even gets that pleasure in every instance, and they will suffer in order that someone else may be aided through that.
secondly, i'd like to point out that though you are correct in saying that life is meaningless (believing your given set of beliefs), that does not mean life has to be meaningless. it is simply a choice, you can choose to believe that we were all created by accident in some cosmic burp some 65 billion years ago that through time and some great miracle, matter, life... intelligent life somehow came into existence, and that nothing happens after you die except that your forgotten. in which case you might as well kill yourself right now, because life is thus meaningless, and your existence superfluous, in fact a denigration to the planet you hold so dear (i'm assuming your also an environmentalist of sorts who believes the planet is endangered by us[correct me if i'm wrong]). OR you can choose to believe that there is a creator, i dont care what you call him or believe he looks like or where he lives or how he came into existence (though it cant be any harder for him to come into existence than all the matter in the universe like evolutionists believe), in which case life has meaning, because now there is a goal to strive for and if your belief turns out to be correct then at least you've gained something from it, (if your an atheist and your belief happens to be true, your still screwed).
now i'm not suggesting you should pack your bags and head off to your nearest monastery or any such nonsense, in fact all i'm suggesting you do is take a bit and think about things, like the fact that atheism and evolution-ism themselves are religions (ones with very few rules mind you) but religions none the less. people try to associate evolution-ism with science and whatnot, but the only science it truly has a link with is theoretical physics, and theoretical history, (which is far from being a sound theory. in fact if you desire i can poke it full of as many holes as a sea sponge).
however, i'm getting off topic. my main point is that you can choose what you believe... everyone does, and everyone chooses who they choose to trust as the ultimate source of information and knowledge. you obviously have subscribed to the ideologies taught by the media, the schools, etc. sources which seem infallible due to their mass acceptance by the general public. yet that does not make them correct, just like pop stars are really famous for their music, even though their music is garbage (another topic i cant get into at the moment, yet can explain if requested).
personally i choose to trust my mind, and common sense, and logic as the basis for all my beliefs. i draw information from other sources including multiple media sources, Christian beliefs (the bible), text books, the internet, my parents... well really anywhere. basically, i dont discriminate against sources, i try to be as balanced and unbiased as possible, and i try to gather as much information as possible, at which point i can logically sort out what makes the most sense logically. and really there is no better way of learning something, because information in and of itself is almost always subject to bias, even what i've been saying probably does, (hence why i just want you to think about it) so the only way to get past the biased nature of information is to have lots of it, and then sort it using sound logic. simply trusting one source of information blindly has never led us anywhere, (that is what propaganda rely's on as well).
i'm pretty sure i've gotten somewhat off track again, so i'll just end with this summation...
life is pointless only if your an atheist/evolutionist. your beliefs are a choice, so you can thus choose to give your life meaning, and the only way to make that choice in good conscience is to think for yourself, and study things out by looking at all the angles, (not just one narrow minded view), and then logically thinking things out. and if you still come to the conclusion that life is pointless, then go kill yourself, and good riddance. jk... kinda
Corbinus - 19, Male, Edmonton
08:42am | Aug 18, '10
re·li·gion [ri-lij-uhn]
–noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
Atheism doesn't say particularily that the big bang started off the universe. Just that it wasn't a god, and that gods don't exist. That hardly qualifies as a belief system, only the absence of one.

I've had my share of religious arguements. Too many to tell the truth, I've studied the magical text you derive your purpose out of. Not for me. I don't trust shit, I only trust the fact that I don't know what is real and what isn't. This wasn't even written by me, just an annonymous person on facebook who wanted to share their thoughts I just agree with the points. I don't think they meant it religiously though. They just wanted the answer, and obviously religion hasn't given them those answers if they needed to point out that they don't have a metaphysical crutch.
Mr.Kewl - 21, Male, Alberta
03:37am | Aug 19, '10
according to the first sentence of that definition, atheism is indeed a religion. and even though it doesnt have strict guidelines about how to live your life, and is not an organized religion, it could still be considered one because you still subscribe to a theology that says there is no God, and thus we evolved (doesnt really matter how you assume it started... just like many Christians even of the same denomination can believe different things about God. however, i was mostly talking about evolution-ism when i said it's a religion... because it's a lot more religious than atheism.

also i dont concider religion a crutch... it may be for some people, but just because a certain type of person is often drawn to a certain ideology, does not negate the possibility of it's truth.
and did i not say that i dont only draw my conclusions from one source? assuming that you meant the bible when you said "magical text"...
chastitybelt
01:53pm | Aug 18, '10
chastitybelt
you have an intelligent facebook friend list.
Shadow*meld
10:46pm | Aug 18, '10
Shadow*meld
Mind. Blown.
Tuesday.. - 20, Female, British Columbia
02:00am | Aug 19, '10
I don't know you, or who wrote this, but I think next we should ponder the question: Why is it seemingly so important to us to be remembered by a shitload of other people just like us?
-chris; - 19, Male, Victoria
05:30am | Aug 19, '10
I don't know about you folk, but i'm comforted by the fact that I'm almost sure to be forgotten. The point of life so far as I have been able to discern; is to make life better for the next generation.-Or- realistically, the point of life is to consume as much as you can, and destroy the world for the next generation/ be powerless to stop this.
Corbinus - 19, Male, Edmonton
06:25am | Aug 19, '10
But why does there need to be a generation in the first place? What's the point if life dies anyways?
I don't get it.
-chris; - 19, Male, Victoria
08:48am | Aug 19, '10
In context to the universe; I believe we're trivial. But since we're all Earth bound, It's our purpose really to give life meaning; No other can do it for us. Although many shall try.
ConnorWilliam - 21, Male, Canada
07:01pm | Aug 19, '10
You've completely neglected the concept of altruism
Corbinus - 19, Male, Edmonton
08:37pm | Aug 19, '10
I didn't title it the walking alturistic crisis...
ConnorWilliam - 21, Male, Canada
08:44pm | Aug 19, '10
Altruism isn't definitively conflicting with existentialism
chowsy
08:31pm | Aug 19, '10
chowsy
well why does there have to be a point? why do we always try to make reasons for doing things, or justify things. why not do them for the sake of doing them...I know that may lead to some chaos, but i'm just saying, does life need to have a purpose? spend too much time trying to figure out the point of it, and then it's gone and you have no more knowledge of the point than before, and you're left with a whole bunch of memories of doing nothing.
humans are less than a speck of existence. we're unimportant and for some reason that makes me feel better - knowing that when i mess up no one really gives a darn.

*rambles more*

=)

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